The Curious Case of David Thompson and Victor Zammit

Hi Paul,

Now I know Conan Doyle worked hard to prove Fairies and the Theosophical Society set off the whole train that now gives us Angel Readings via Doreen Virtue but most Spiritualists do not believe either are the type of communicators we are dealing or getting information from.

Angels have crept into many places as an alternative to our Spirit Guides but I believe that it is in reality those guides who we are dealing with. Fairies well Ihave yet to be convinced lovely idea though they are and Angels I believe have a different role whatever part of the strands of creation they are (and I believe in angels not in the modern muti hierarchical miraculous way they are painted now from a personal viewpoint)

Angels and Fairies seem to have taken on a whole new meaning in the last 100 years or since particularly the Theosophical Society built upon the concepts in the Kabbala These seem now to have become a New Age cross over in terms of communication, as people seem to claim they now receive and their role in helping people. Me I'm a simple soul I'll stick with the wonderful Guides who support us and let teh Angels look after universal issues. As to Fairies wonderful unless you take a look at some of the issues surrounding them in the Celtic Tradition where myth says they played a not always pleasant or helpful role.

Cheers

Jim

I was joking but thanks Jim

Oscar performane to the Joker

Good feed though Obi

lol good job you have a sense of humour

Well as further information here is the mind blowing advert for the Special Deep Trance Event ...for the special price of $90 you may attend and ask the 30 question which are listed above...especially "Who Exactly Are You" to supposed guide William Charles Cadwell given none of his claims stand up, oh and why did you recommend Aspirin etc etc.



Oh well its advertising for COSC I suppose even if I would obviously love it if attendees for once really tested the Spirits properly.

Then out of the blue comes their latest newsletter with the special proclamation about the Sydney Progressive Spiritualist Centre. It clearly appears this has been started by COSC as it can only be accessed from the COSC site and the html links show the silver cord site.

Well Psychic News gave a report on the first meeting on 26th October from a reporter in Sydney. This is in their 3rd January 2009 edition. Notably it sounds as is the Mental Mediumship was not at a very high standard but then whilst visiting us DT's performance whilst OK was not atanything like the top level. Indeed he acknowledged Lis here to be a much better mental medium than he was. Clearly he still has that base problem of linking a message with a recipient as he showed here and many fishing net users have.

More conceningly it repoerts telling a woman that the medical tests she had had would not show cancer. Seems that despite his previous problems with medical matters DT is still willing to give messages of this type which may be very harmful.

COSC must have been disappointed with a turn out of about 50 given the many friends who would have come along. I believe there have been two more meetings one taken by Christine Morgan and one by David. Notably VZ has not mentioned anything about the Church since just before the first meeting.

Love to have been able to get a more detailed report for you about events.

Jim

$90? A bargain! Shame I'm on the wrong land mass.... Perhaps another time eh?

I thought this would be next. If this session is $90 can you imagine the charge for a seance probablty $150-$200.
From VZ today

"He will be holding a special public session in Sydney on Saturday January 31st at Crows Nest. According to the Circle of the Silver Cord website people who attend the deep trance session will be given consideration as potential sitters for a future materialization session. "

Hmm noticed this one was getting a bit dusty, since VZ has hardly written about events recently there has been not much new to write.

However, I understand that COSC have their own thread in the new Robin Foy forum and on their DT has been commenting about the lies about him on the internet.

Sadly for DT the questions above are not lies they are based upon hard cold facts. WCC did not exist in any of the claimed forms, neither did his other guides. This from facts based upon genealogical records. The incidents about Aspirin come directly from seance recordings the truth goes on in all the questions.

Maybe instead of suggesting he is being lied about DT should finally try and resolve these issues. I understand that other ex members from the original SCR have tried to post the questions on this forum but been ejected. Sadly for DT the questions will not go away. My congratulations to the people who posted the questions on there, nice try at least many will have read them before the removal.

Cheers
Jim

Hi everyone

The 37 questions have now been put on facebook, on a group called 'spiritual ? sceptic ? evidence and proof for existance of the afterlife of which VZ is an administrator. Someone brought this to the COSC's attention, and here is Rosheen's reply


Rosheen here David's manager and circle member here. We are unaware nor care to be aware of any negatively based questions in any forum. Our purpose is not to convince anyone but to put forward the undiluted messages from our friends in the Spirit World and let those in attendance take from it what they will. If anyone has issue with this or how we go about presenting the message from the Spirit World then that is up to them. We have countless positive testimonies from those that David's mediumship has touched and we are VERY clear on the intention of our circle. What I am getting at Natalie is that NO ONE will deter us and the best way we find to deal with negativity is to completely ignore it. Many thanks for your interest.

"What I am getting at Natalie is that NO ONE will deter us and the best way we find to deal with negativity is to completely ignore it. Many thanks for your interest."

None so blind as those who choose not to see.

Such arrogance that their "........undiluted messages from our friends in the Spirit World...." have significance just because this group is receiving them.

How many groups have foundered - and will founder in the future - with this attitude?

And how much nonsense will they disseminate before their demise comes about?

Perhaps it's no bad thing that few seem interested in the message of survival whatever group is bringing it?

In such cases, a lack of public interest is better than its interest in something misleading and wrong....

Hi Mac

Charming isn't she Full of arrogance and self importance much like VZ and DT

Our purpose is not to convince anyone but to put forward the undiluted messages from our friends in the Spirit World and let those in attendance take from it what they will.

That bit got me 'it is not our purpose to convince anyone' ? Please someone correct me if I am wrong, or if I have misinterpreted that statement, but I thought the whole point of mediumship on any level was to convince, to reassure, to prove to people the existence of the after life. Especially true to Physical Materialisation Mediumship.

cheryl wrote:Hi Mac

Charming isn't she Full of arrogance and self importance much like VZ and DT

Our purpose is not to convince anyone but to put forward the undiluted messages from our friends in the Spirit World and let those in attendance take from it what they will.

That bit got me 'it is not our purpose to convince anyone' ? Please someone correct me if I am wrong, or if I have misinterpreted that statement, but I thought the whole point of mediumship on any level was to convince, to reassure, to prove to people the existence of the after life. Especially true to Physical Materialisation Mediumship.

You're right cheryl. It shouldn't surprise us but it still does. Or perhaps I should say it outrages us....

On a similar point I once asked a former friend for help to understand a particular issue. She had told me something I found very hard to reconcile. The information came from her guides (she said!) When I asked her to further question the so-called guides on a contentious point, she retorted that if I wanted to ask more questions then I would have to look elsewhere for my own guidance....

She holds the view that service to others is a matter totally incidental to her personal development. She had little interest in helping others. That flew in the face of everything I had learned from Silver Birch's teachings, everything which I felt totally comfortable with, everything I tried to practise myself...

Perhaps the individuals in the group concerned have been guided in a similar way to my friend?

Their interest may be purely self-interest....

Thanks for that Cheryl I have now been to the face book site and it is fascinating that, given VZ's involvement and the fact that COSC know they are there the post with the questions remains untouched.

I understand you and Jo have been doing stirling work to keep these issues at the top of peoples mind. Unfortunately some devotees of Physical mediumship can just ignore the issues and problems, in most cases it seems because they are desperate to be a part of it.

Yes Mac

"And how much nonsense will they disseminate before their demise comes about?

Perhaps it's no bad thing that few seem interested in the message of survival whatever group is bringing it?

In such cases, a lack of public interest is better than its interest in something misleading and wrong...."

Jim

thanks, Jim. Interesting info.

quote "Unfortunately some devotees of Physical mediumship can just ignore the issues and problems, in most cases it seems because they are desperate to be a part of it." You've got this bang on I'd say!


Keith