Warren Caylor

Admin wrote:Hi Z,

I believe you are allowed to earn some income but I do not think that on a visitors visa it is a large amount.

Jim

On a B1 Visa I doubt that any income is allowed - we use a B1 (Visitor for Pleasure) when we spend our time in the USA.

On a B2 Visa (Business) it's probably allowed subject to receiving other permissions.

Hi All,

I knew that at some stage I would find Zerdin Phenomenal's pronouncement on Warren and this did not arise from the seance mentioend above where the blackout "failed"
"Warren Caylor Séances
Statement by The Zerdin Fellowship

The Fellowship is dedicated to encouraging the highest standards in the presentation of physical phenomena to the public. It is with this principle in mind that we feel obliged to make the following statement.

Trustees of the Fellowship have been made aware of increasing concern regarding aspects of Warren Caylor’s séances fuelled by lack of strict control of séance room conditions. Coupled with this concern is the reported lack of any real evidence as to any non-incarnate participation in the proceedings.

These concerns were alluded to in a report sent to Warren Caylor following a séance held during March 2007. We hoped the report would encourage him to address these issues. Information reaching us indicates that no substantial improvements have been made since he received the report. Thus the Fellowship feels obliged to publish the original report as printed below.

The Fellowship cannot recommend these séances as evidence of survival until the issues covered in the report are dealt with. We are very concerned as to the negative publicity that his séances are attracting concerning the practise of Physical Phenomena.


Report on Séance with Warren Caylor

This report pertains to a séance witnessed by Joan Hughes, Dennis Pearman and Lew Sutton on 17th March 2007 at Pear Tree House in Herefordshire.

The Venue.
The séance was held in a large airy room with about 35 people in two rows occupying about half the area of the room. The rest of the room had lounge type chairs and settees on which ladies handbags had been deposited prior to the séance. None of these were searched before the séance. The cabinet was located in one corner of the room and checked by Dennis Pearman, as was straps and ropes securing the medium to his chair.

The Phenomena.
Voice phenomena was amazingly loud throughout the séance with the main control Rachael particularly so. Other voices ranged from child-like to the deep gruff tones of an elderly gentleman.
Items left on the floor in front of the cabinet were used to make various noises by being hit or played. Several items were tossed to one side after being used, landing up only inches from the feet of those in the front row.
Low intensity red and white lights were introduced several times but from where we were sitting it was impossible to identify exactly what was visible. There was hint of a tall dark shadow for a short while in or immediately in front of the cabinet.
During the séance a luminous glow was seen which could have been materialised legs. But as this glow had the same consistency and colour as luminous objects in the room (such as trumpets) we were not able to positively identify from whence this glow came. However, at one point Dennis Pearman was asked to walk across the floor towards the cabinet and to touch a hand placed against a luminous plaque. He was able to confirm the hand placed upon the plaque.
The cabinet curtain was removed during the later part of the séance and landed up on Dennis’s lap. He couldn’t identify the item until the lights were put on at the end.
The séance ended with Warren being moved from the cabinet complete with chair to being positioned just in front of the cabinet. He was minus a shirt and sweater with one arm free which we understand arose from the claimed earlier brief dematerialisation of a plastic strap securing one wrist. The other wrist was still secured as was the rope securing his legs to the chair.
The dematerialisation of a plastic strap occurred thus: One lady was called forward to witness the medium’s arm becoming free – similar to what often happens at Stewart Alexander’s séances. Although at Stewart’s séances the arm is normally re-secured by momentary de-materialisation or by the spirit control putting a new strap on the medium’s wrist.

Evidence of Spirits’ Presence.
As there were no personal messages, information or advanced philosophical thought given there was no evidence during the séance of non-incarnate minds communicating or controlling the proceedings. We understood that those who communicated were regular communicators apart from one who gave his name and was identified as a relative who had communicated before. No message or evidence was given to support his identity.



Medium’s Safety.
We were concerned at handbags being left at the back of the séance room. It would have been easy for items such as torches to have been hidden within these bags. Those sitting near could have quietly accessed such items during noisy parts of the proceedings. We don’t need to emphasise how much harm can result to a medium with light being suddenly switched on during séances.
Another problem that could have caused extra stress to the medium’s body was people in the back row not remaining seated when they should have been. Such movement can disrupt the energies in the séance room. It is a good idea for whoever gives the pre séance instructions to use a list so that points like this aren’t missed.

Illumination.
White and red lights were switched on and off many times during the séance. This can cause stress to the medium’s body. We would recommend that the Spirit Control experiments in the home circle to get the lighting right in order to minimise the amount of stress to the medium during a public séance.
Also, we would recommend changing the red light that was used. With the glowing element clearly visible the light resembled a bright point source rather than a diffused light source. This is likely to cause more stress to ectoplasm rather than the softer light produced by a bulb behind a translucent red panel. A diffused light source would also enable the sitters to see what is being illuminated better as the glowing light bulb dominated one’s vision.

Conclusions.
On this occasion the room was not checked prior to the séance starting and items such as torches could have been hidden by sitters thus putting the medium’s health at serious risk. Additionally, the medium, or what could be claimed to be his accomplish, could also be open to accusations of hiding items in the room if not searched by independent witnesses.
Although there appeared to be evidence of physical phenomena there was no real evidence that this energy was being directed by spirit controls. What is needed is verbal communication to provide survival evidence as mentioned in the “Evidence of Spirits’ Presence” section. Physical phenomena on its own doesn’t prove survival, all it does is prove that mainstream science can’t fully explain the universe. In other words, the Laws of Physics are seriously incomplete.
From where we were sitting (almost directly in line with the cabinet) all the phenomena appeared to be in the cabinet or directly in front of the cabinet. Thus it was impossible for us to assess the true nature of the phenomena. In retrospect, it would have been better to have sat to one side which would have given us a much better bearing as to the position of voice and physical phenomena.
The situation was better regarding the luminous plaque with a spirit hand which Dennis Pearman touched as he was asked to step forward for closer examination.
As Warren is contemplating allowing up to 60 at his séances it is even more essential that some phenomena occurs well away from the cabinet in order for sitters not to come away disappointed. Also, sitters may be dubious as to the true nature of the phenomena - which would not be good for Warren’s reputation.
As the Zerdin Fellowship is all about encouraging the development and growth of physical phenomena in order to prove survival, it is essential that this element be included in a séance if the Fellowship is to endorse or validate Warren’s mediumship. We would like Warren to encourage his controls to provide such evidence in every séance to avoid negative criticism. Furthermore, like all mediums, without such evidence he risks prosecution under the Fraudulent Mediums’ Act if one of our very many detractors were to make a complaint to the authorities. "

From Frank Brown's website:

Removal of Information – Warren Caylor

For reasons of an undisclosed nature, It has been decided by the webmaster of this site, to remove all articles referring to him and his Mediumship, from both this site and www.mediums-spiritguides.com, this includes all séance reports and other relative information.

Very interesting Z given Franks determined support for Warren C

All it needs now is for Zammit to do a U-turn but that is highly unlikely.

Z

Can someone enlarge upon this matter please?

No it's a secret and we all know except you mac

you little monkeys - aren't you going to tell me?

Hi Mac,

Not sure I can help much but when the Psychic News seance was cancelled, Frank Brown attacked Psychic News and its editor in an extremely strong way. He blamed them entirely for the cancellation and implied that they should have accepted virtually any of WC's later conditions about sitters. This despite WC saying he would sit in any circumstances and only at the last moment trying to move the goalposts that had already been agreed.


It is hard to envisage the circumstances that may have persuaded him to remove all of the Warren Caylor material after such unswerving support, its quite a U turn.

I cannot envisage our friend VZ doing the same although someone once suggested to me that the relationship is not as good as it once was. Hard to imagine that as they are altogether in Robin Foy's new forum and VZ attended David's trance session in Sydney.

Jim

Admin wrote:Hi Mac,

Not sure I can help much but when the Psychic News seance was cancelled, Frank Brown attacked Psychic News and its editor in an extremely strong way. He blamed them entirely for the cancellation and implied that they should have accepted virtually any of WC's later conditions about sitters. This despite WC saying he would sit in any circumstances and only at the
last moment trying to move the goalposts that had already been agreed.


It is hard to envisage the circumstances that may have pesuaded to remove all of the Warren Caylor material after such unswerving support, its quite a U turn.

I cannot envisage our friend VZ doing the same although someone once suggested to me that the relationship is not as good as it once was. Hard to imagine that as they are altogether in Robin Foy's new forum and VZ attended David's trance session in Sydney.

Jim

Hello Jim

Thanks for your observations.

I followed all the stuff concerning Psychic News's challenge a while back and I'm interested to know why Frank Brown appears to have changed from being a strong supporter.

Obi and zerdini appear to know something of the circumstances. I'm hoping they'll share some of their understanding.

As for Messrs Zammit and Foy, well we've all heard quite enough of those gentlemen and their forums recently.

I don't know anything about it Mac. Just pulling your leg . It all looks like two bald men arguing over a comb.

obiwan wrote:I don't know anything about it Mac. Just pulling your leg . It all looks like two bald men arguing over a comb.

awww, obi....I really thought there was something interesting coming shame....

It would be a first if I did

obiwan wrote:It would be a first if I did

ditto

Hi All,

I'm probably well behind the eight ball here in terms of sheddding new knowledge but I understand that as well as withdrawing any mention of WC Frank has come out on another forum saying he caught WC in an outright cheat.

Anyone shed any more light on this, really the information surrounding WC looked really bad and this, after Frank's previous amazing web attack on the editor of PN represents and astonishing act from a previously devoted supporter.