Warren Caylor

Frank Brown wrote on his website:

Removal of Information – Warren Caylor

For reasons of an undisclosed nature, It has been decided by the webmaster of this site, to remove all articles referring to him and his Mediumship, from both this site and www.mediums-spiritguides.com, this includes all séance reports and other relative information.

I have also been requested, to inform everyone and anyone who is interested, that the following people wish to make it clear that they have no dealings, no communication, and form no part of any circle or connection to Warren Caylor or his mediumship:

Julie Day his X partner

Lisa Day

Terry and Silvia Merrideth, X Circle Members

Myra Fitzell

and of course my self, Frank Brown

This what Frank wrote:

Hi All,

I am just letting you know that I have finally woken up to the antics of Warren Caylor, and I do not just mean about his mediumship, which I now find to be extremely questionable. Those who have attended his seances that have been "In the light" should understand, that what they see coming out of the cabinet is not "Yellow Feather" but Warren Caylor.

Don't get me wrong I do believe that Warren has got physical mediumship gifts, but regrettably they are not what he thinks they are, and if he spent more time developing those gifts he has, instead of trying to dupe people out of loads of money and giving them nothing but false hopes and childish pranks from spirits who are pretending to be children, he might get back on track and develope.

The "Whole Truth" will out, but not just yet, but soon.

Zandorf (Frank B)

Hi Z,

Thanks for that, it must feel worse for many of those who were believers. Even now I note it is hard to face up to what is probably the whole truth.

It is a shame that there are some who clearly are initially regarded as having the necessary talent who go so far off the road. It is almost worse though that when the red flags go up as a warning about inconsistencies these same people initially just circle the wagons and defend the individuals using all means possible including in Franks case a nasty attack on the PN editor.

Far better to actively encourage investigation, following up the problems than pretend they do not exist. I feel WC's case is worse than DT's, in some ways but there are strong parallels. The vicious attacks on people who raise questions by DT, VZ and others. The refusal to face hard cold facts and a determination to brazen through and claim internet lies are being said about DT.

From what came up on the old SCR and in the UK newspapers Warren had a serious problem. However DT does too - William Charles Cadwell his main control who assures everyone of his reality did not ever exist as claimed by the "spirit" (when a "spirit" tells a direct lie like this its reality needs checking, it has been with DT so long now it must feel like a part of him). The aspirin and Downs syndrome affairs did take place and were put on the internet in transcribed form and recorded form by the Circle. The Houdini "coin" is real in its unreality and the "pre its appearance" seance and how it appeared in the UK were all up on the Circles website. Also unless the ex Haymist Circle leader is making up stories, which I doubt very much (and anyway there are other witnesses) DT's healing guides told someone with cancer they no longer had it for them to die of cancer two weeks later.

Yet DT's friends and a large portion of the Physical mediumship community wish to ignore these issues and place their belief in DT. It is a fatal flaw because no thinking man outside of our community would countenance accepting proof from DT without a full explanation of these matters. Clearly a number of intelligent people with a love for the truth of Spiritualism also cannot tolerate it. Surely now with WC in such difficulties it is time they handled the questions about DT so that, whatever the outcome, we can all move on in unison.

Oh well its a shame all they seem able to do is abuse those who draw attention to problems, until those problems reach a point where they are not possible to be ignored any more. Clearly in DT's case a brash upwards and onwards seems to the approach. Yet as they progress there becomes a greater certainty that at some stage these questions are likely to be asked, in a place where they may cause more embarrasment to all parties involved and to the cause of Proof of Survival.

At every turn all of our past problems with mediumship (or the lack of it) are used against the movement, ignoring the fine work of many good genuine and accurate mediums. To protect their reputation, protect the sick and bereaved who seek comfort from our movement is a prime task for Spiritualists. Those who love Physical mediumship so greatly, as the only real proof of survival, the finest version of mediumship, actually have a very high responsibility to ensure that all flaws in the pattern are properly and openly addressed.

Just a reminder of why the waters may be very muddy for Warren

"THE INDEPENDENT Sunday, 25 May 2008

Spirited away: Meet the psychics with an uncertain future

Tomorrow, the Government brings in new laws cracking down on the activities of professional psychics. Does this spell the end for a secret world of Ouija boards, 'aura cameras' and flying ectoplasm? Archie Bland travels to The Other Side in search of answers.

Tomorrow, the Fraudulent Mediums Act will be repealed and replaced by general consumer protection legislation that many say will do just that. The Crown Prosecution Service, which has not traditionally expended a great deal of energy on tarot readers, will cede responsibility for policing the spirit world to the Office of Fair Trading. Anyone taking money for psychic services will be barred from aggressively targeting the vulnerable. And, crucially, complainants will no longer have to demonstrate deliberate malice to have a chance of success. In short, psychics and mediums will be judged on a par with door-to-door salesmen and second-hand car dealers.

So perhaps the question should be recast to consider responsibility. Like the doctor, the sensible psychic's first rule is probably to do no harm, and while there may be no such thing as a good medium to the ardent materialist, the contrast between those who have a code and those who don't – between the tactful and the terrifying, the reasonable and the rip-off – is obvious to anyone. Under that scheme, it may be people such as Warren Caylor who should be worrying.

Like all physical mediums, Caylor performs his "experiments" in the dark, and in an era of infrared cameras and miniature recording devices, he is one of the few to still be plugging away. Caroline Smith and Michelle Skyrne went to see him last year, after hearing from a friend that he might be able to help them contact loved ones on the other side. Caroline's father had died of cancer, and Michelle's boyfriend, a soldier, had been killed in Iraq just two months before; £30 each from 80 audience members seemed like a lot of money, but they had heard he had a connection. So they took off all their jewellery and went through the compulsory metal detectors and took their seats, and watched Caylor being strapped into his chair, the better to guarantee he couldn't move during the séance. Then, to combat the risks of ectoplasm, the lights went off.

Ectoplasm, as any physical medium will tell you, is the crucial thing that distinguishes the gifted few from the rest of us. A kind of ethereal, intestinal goo that can manipulate the restrained visionary's surroundings, it looks – in Caylor's pictures, at least – an awful lot like toilet roll. Light is said to force the stuff back into the body at dangerous speed – indeed, the legendary Helen Duncan, queen of the physical mediums and the last woman to be imprisoned under the Witchcraft Act, is said to have died from complications resulting from a sudden ingestion of ectoplasm when the police raided one of her shows with torches.

This is one explanation why Smith and Skyrne found themselves in the pitch black, waiting for a message. Unfortunately for the medium, just as the spirits started to send luminous signs of their presence, enough light from a passing car got in through cracks in the window panels for his audience to see him out of his seat, the bindings removed, waving a pair of what looked suspiciously like glowsticks. This is another explanation.

Caylor, sensibly enough, did not hang around long enough for Skyrne or Smith to demand a refund. They considered going to the police, but decided that their chances of success were too slim for it to be worth bothering with, and they were probably right. With the Office of Fair Trading in charge, cases will be treated in the context of other reports of fraud, rather than in isolation, as they tend to be at present. Given enough complaints, someone such as Caylor might eventually be held to account.

Smith is, not surprisingly, in favour of the change. "I just wanted to speak to my dad," she says, her anger still fizzing. "I really wanted to believe. But this man made a mockery of the whole thing. It was just laughable, like a 'Punch and Judy' show. That's what was so upsetting."

The fact that both she and Skyrne continue to believe in the possibility of psychic connection with the dead is, if nothing else, a remarkable testament to the resilience of faith. "

Unfortunately they misplaced their faith this time.

A very good and timely reminder, Jim.

WARREN CAYLOR'S ACCUSER SPEAKS EXCLUSIVELY TO PSYCHIC NEWS

Frank Brown, in an interview with PN's Editor revealed that at a physical seance in Essex in September 2008 Warren Caylor's guide Yellow Feather asked for the light to be turned up. Frank did so and instead of the guide emerging from the cabinet it was Warren Caylor.

When asked how he was able to be so certain it was Warren, Frank explained that Warren was dressed in very specific clothing that evening - a fawn-coloured fleece top and blue jeans which were too big for him in the legs.

The supposed "Yellow Feather appeared just the way Warren was dressed."

While acknowledging that it was Yellow Feather's voice that was speaking when Warren "waltzed off down the room", Frank Brown had no doubts that it was Warren walking around, due to the amount of light in the room. "At the end of that seance, most people just got up and left without any comment whatsoever."

When asked whether the events of that evening convinced Brown that Warren Caylor was out of the cabinet, and that he was impersonating a materialised Yellow Feather, Brown said "Yes, that's right."

While Brown would like to say that he does believe that Yellow Feather is a genuine communicator on this occasion it is clear that there was something very wrong happening.

Brown's view is that Caylor is "under-developed in his mediumship" and his "materialisation in the light" has never been a real success. Adding that "it looks like (Caylor) is more interested in making money from his seances, rather than giving evidential proof."

Brown acknowledged that he has had doubts about Caylor for a couple of years. A lot of the doubts were about the lack of evidence brought through in Caylor seances. Brown noted he didn't think he had "ever seen anybody actually come through Warren and give real evidence."

Other things that have disturbed Brown include the issue of the knots on Warren's leg restraints. He describes how the circle leader would tie Warren using a very "clean reef knot." When "the seance finished, it was no longer a nice clean reef knot, there was a granny knot instead."

When asked how Warren's circle members may have reacted to Brown's accusations, he stated "There aren't any circle members as far as I know. Not now. The ones (Warren) had in the past are in total agreement with me, except for his circle leader, who I believe is still with him." The regular home circle was now disbanded.

Given Brown had been such a staunch supporter of Caylor in the past might some people wonder what his motives are in making these accusations. Brown acknowledged he had in the past defended Warren because he thought people had not given him a fair opportunity. He added, "Even though people were saying that they had also seen him standing in various positions out of the cabinet, I didn't want to believe it."

As a consequence, I stood by him, supported him through thick and thin, stood up to everybody and told them what I thought of them because of it."
Now, Brown wants to apologise for sensationalising Caylor and helping him to gain such apparent credibility. Brown now says he feels "extremely guilty for supporting him in the way I did. My reports were probably an encouragement to many to find out about and attend one of (Caylor's) seances."

Brown hopes and prays “that others reading this will not fall into the same traps that (he) allowed (himself) to fall into.” His “realisation came very late and the damage has been done, but now (he’s) trying to redress that.”

Warren has issued a statement on his website...............
12th March 2009

Due to recent accusations and publications I have been forced to make the following announcement.

I have been developing and sitting for the purpose of physical medium ship in the hope that it may bring further evidence to support the theory of an eternal soul, During this time there has been much controversy surrounding the mediumship.

I would like to point out that We have photographic evidence to confirm that certain physical phenomena is humanly and physically imposable, further more there are a large amount of people who can confirm this if it were to go to a any court, as well as those who have received personal communication from loved ones, whom would be only to happy to admit to such evidence under oath.

Most of you would have heard of the chaining at castle vale, Where, Mr. f brown himself had ensured that I was incapable of removing any or all restraints, these included, Padlocks, chains and shackles. Now for various reasons, the same person has openly admitted that he thinks it is myself that walks around, As do certain other individuals, This is complete nonsense with no evidence to back it up, as usual with the so called spiritual community.?

With all of this in mind, and the simple fact that I am not the first to have been accused of such wild insinuation, I have decided as of the 24th April to take the next 12 months away from the public eye, for the soul purpose of using a video camera and other imaging devices to obtain and in deed publish the ultimate evidence that it is in fact spirit and nothing else. Though as I am sure some of you will agree, even this will not be excepted, it is all I can do to prove once and for all the authenticity of my mediumship and thus crush any or all such accusations

Reports and images may be published as they take place

During this time any bookings taken for any Séance will be classed strictly as private gatherings arranged through the various individuals or groups.

(A séance, It is not about the medium)

Lis spotted this in some research material which I was dragging out for her.

I believe both he article and her comments are valid here
"In a letter written by Robert Dale Owen published in The New York Times 11 July 1875 are the following words:

"The mediums in question undoubtedly have, under certain conditions, powers of materialization. They have dishonestly supplemented these powers to a greater or lesser extent. As to this supplementing of genuine spiritual gifts by fraudulent trickery - the lamentable fact is that among such inheritors of exceptional powers, which they and all men ought to regard as sacred, we find those who, turning money-changers in the temple of Spiritualism, prostitute, for purposes of unhallowed gain, the holy gifts of which they are the unworthy possessors.... It is wickedly michievous to gloss over such a crime."

Though Owen was referring to mediums involved in a scandel concerning the apparently fraudulent appearances of 'Katie King' in Philadelphia in 1874, somehow I feel the words resonate well with the current issues with both Warren Caylor and David Thompson."

The comment in the New York Times followed a letter in the "Banner of Light".

Z

Admin wrote:Lis spotted this in some research material which I was dragging out for her.

I believe both he article and her comments are valid here
"In a letter written by Robert Dale Owen published in The New York Times 11 July 1875 are the following words:

"The mediums in question undoubtedly have, under certain conditions, powers of materialization. They have dishonestly supplemented these powers to a greater or lesser extent. As to this supplementing of genuine spiritual gifts by fraudulent trickery - the lamentable fact is that among such inheritors of exceptional powers, which they and all men ought to regard as sacred, we find those who, turning money-changers in the temple of Spiritualism, prostitute, for purposes of unhallowed gain, the holy gifts of which they are the unworthy possessors.... It is wickedly michievous to gloss over such a crime."

Though Owen was referring to mediums involved in a scandel concerning the apparently fraudulent appearances of 'Katie King' in Philadelphia in 1874, somehow I feel the words resonate well with the current issues with both Warren Caylor and David Thompson."

Plus ca change, c'est plus la même chose.....

Plus ca change, c'est plus la même chose...

Very true, Mac

Z

Latest from Warren Caylor’s website:

2004 - 2009 Codswallop

WANTED

By the Canadian authorities

United states Homeland security

Thames valley Police

Dutch Immigration

West midlands police

Uk Customs and Excise

West Sussex Police

Trading standards

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SCANDAL

Psychic News Investigation

Chatforum members close my web site

Voice Box accusation

Police raid a seance

Mediums can see in the dark

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Reports on 14th March séances by Chris Di Nucci and Jack Hunter can be found at:

http://other-reports.blogspot.com/

Thanks Z haven't been there for a while I do not like the energy, is he losing it or what? His problem is we have many reliable reports, from a variety of people with no axe to grind against WC, of his being caught in a different ways over a long period of time.

Then having made a challenge to take part in a controlled seance when one is organised on what must be termed realtively friendly and non intrusive conditions he forces its cancellation.

In honesty we have a case here which is so like the critical write up I posted in this area of the forum about Charles Bailey in Wellington NZ 1909 it is not funny. In 100 years nothing changes (in honesty the criticisms of Bailey still reflect in current problems with PM)

Jim

Admin wrote:Thanks Z haven't been there for a while I do not like the energy, is he losing it or what? His problem is we have many reliable reports, from a variety of people with no axe to grind against WC, of his being caught in a different ways over a long period of time.

Then having made a challenge to take part in a controlled seance when one is organised on what must be termed realtively friendly and non intrusive conditions he forces its cancellation.

In honesty we have a case here which is so like the critical write up I posted in this area of the forum about Charles Bailey in Wellington NZ 1909 it is not funny. In 100 years nothing changes (in honesty the criticisms of Bailey still reflect in current problems with PM)

Jim

I certainly agree that Charles Bailey was a controversial figure.

I certainly agree that Charles Bailey was a controversial figure

True controversial but apparently genuine at times.........