Warren Caylor

Admin wrote:

I certainly agree that Charles Bailey was a controversial figure

True controversial but apparently genuine at times.........

...........indeed!

Hmm I understand that Warren rants on on his website. He just loves us all to give him free advertising. Clearly things have bogged down in taking action against him.

Of course under the law it would have to be past events as we should remember WC advertises that this is all for "ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY" now.

Just feel the word Medium should be dropped out of his description so what sort of entertainer is he. Magician, comedian. Equally now should an entertainer be part of a union or member of the magic cicle(I am sure he would fail the audition). Ok with Mediums out what sort of Physical is he I wonder.

I am sure WC is registered for GST and properly records his income from his stage shows, I presume he has a job and makes no claims for benefits in the UK. People in the UK should perhaps remember how Al Capone was brought down the Customs an Excise (GST) and Tax man are much tougher than trading standards. Pretty sure Zandorf would know how he is organised.

Well its a thought anyway maybe he hasn't killed anyone like Capone but he is trying to convince people he is materialising those on the other side (however rarely he does so, being more intent as it seems in being childlike smashing up furniture and as eyewitnesses have said stomping round in luminous trousers playing an Indian...oh thats child like I had a Red Indian costume when I was little too)

If any one is so certain that what they see is not spirit, but instead believe it to be me, then I suggest you reach out and grab hold off, or jump on to and hold down with all your strength, the figure in question. If you do decide to do such a thing, then you should be aware that Neither myself or anyone else will be held accountable, or take any responsibility for the outcome of such stupidity. I certainly will have no sympathy for you, and I doubt very much if any one else will either.

Why has this not happened yet,? Because no one has a strong enough conviction.

This is not Unspiritual, just evident.

Hmm Z his latest ever changing web site pronouncement I understand.

But of course he knows that even if we did not believe he was real the dangers to a medium if ectoplasm is grabbed would morally stop people.

I still think these guys who work in the dark should use thermography, non intrusive infra red video of the event whre the different colours of heat patterns would indicate who was in the room and where. The computer recording the event could be placed outside the room and the whole could be done inexpensively using expert consultants used to doing this in major corprations whre the sensitivity of the equipment /processes under study mean that the infra red must not have any intrusive impact.

Well we all by now must understand why Emma Hardinge Britten, DD Home and the USA National Association of Churches were so vehement Against Dark Seances (seances without light). Indeed a committee of the then National Spiritualist Association (the one that self destructed through the impact of Victoria Woodhull) reported back to an 1860's National Convention that they were strongly opposed to the newly developed "Dark Seances" which failed to deliver results and were already riddled with fraud.

Reality no light no real proof.

If, and it's a BIG IF, Warren is a genuine physical medium then he is stupid beyond words.

I agree with you Jim, some form of light is essential in what are claimed to be materialisation seances.

The same applies to David Thompson.

Z

Yup

Latest from Warren:

"The physical phenomena of a séance room is created by the spirit world in order to clearly demonstrate their own reality and this is achieved by manifestation of a physical nature. In order to realize this, they must extract from the medium a form of energy (referred to as ectoplasm) and it is upon this that all the phenomena rests. It should be noted that externalization of this energy is potentially dangerous should any person act irresponsibly by breaking the conditions of the séance room. It is of vital importance that you understand the following.
Under know circumstances should you attempt to reach out and grab or try to restrain a materialized form. If you do there is an extremely high chance that you may suffer from fatal burns or injury. The light haven circle can/nor will take any responsibility for any such action should it occur, furthermore any or all activity and information received or conveyed during a séance is purely the responsibility of the individual concerned and no further form of investigation will take place if it is seen to be the cause of any distress or suffering in any way. All decisions are final and no discussions will be entered in to."

This is exactly as printed on his website including all grammar and spelling mistakes.

Wonderful Psychic News Article highlighting that stupidity today Z.

Also another really good article in there about him. Warren must become embarassed one day.

Excellent work by the Editor, you can just imagine how much care must be taken before Articles like this may be released.

Admin wrote:Wonderful Psychic News Article highlighting that stupidity today Z.

Also another really good article in there about him. Warren must become embarassed one day.

Excellent work by the Editor, you can just imagine how much care must be taken before Articles like this may be released.

Absolutely Jim. A good article by my friend,Riley Heagerty, about the three months WC spent in his home which is being serialised in PN.

Congratulations too, to Lis for the well-researched article on the Seven Principles.

All in all an excellent issue.

Z

I found the of the 'spirit child' somewhat sinister.

obiwan wrote:I found the of the 'spirit child' somewhat sinister.

Nothing that a little discipline wouldn't cure.

That's the spirit!

You know the best bet would be to discipline Warren, my memory says I did wonder whenever I heard the two "child" voices they sounded very like an adult imitating a child.

Now here's an interesting question when did the concept of the child guide, to play around and supposedly lift the energy, first appear? I know Leslie Flint had one in attendance and he did sound more like a child not an adult in tight undies.

Admin wrote:You know the best bet would be to discipline Warren, my memory says I did wonder whenever I heard the two "child" voices they sounded very like an adult imitating a child.

Now here's an interesting question when did the concept of the child guide, to play around and supposedly lift the energy, first appear? I know Leslie Flint had one in attendance and he did sound more like a child not an adult in tight undies.

Child guides have been around a very long time both in America and the UK and probably elsewhere.

zerdini wrote:

Admin wrote:You know the best bet would be to discipline Warren, my memory says I did wonder whenever I heard the two "child" voices they sounded very like an adult imitating a child.

Now here's an interesting question when did the concept of the child guide, to play around and supposedly lift the energy, first appear? I know Leslie Flint had one in attendance and he did sound more like a child not an adult in tight undies.

Child guides have been around a very long time both in America and the UK and probably elsewhere.

Child guides or controls are many and varied.

Some of the more well known names are Feda (Mrs Osborne Leonard), Nelly (Mrs Thompson), Dewdrop (Bessie Williams), Sunshine (Mrs Meurig Morris), Little Stasia (Mlle Tomczyk), Ninia and Yolande (Mme d’Esperance), Belle (Mrs Annie Brittain), Belle (Mrs Mollie Perriman) Harmony (Mrs Susannah Harris), Snowdrop (Mrs Maud Lord Drake), Pocka(Miss Wood), Little Peter (Arnold Clare), Violet (Gladys Mallaburn), Ginger (Alec Harris), Cuckoo (Gordon Higginson), Christopher (Stuart Alexander Adamson), Charlie (Colin Fry), Peggy (Helen Duncan).

The list could go on but as to who was first to produce a child guide I have no idea.

Z